for the record....
Aug. 7th, 2009 08:36 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
sevETA: There's more substantive discussion going on over where the original post was, now. (Edited: August 14, 2009)
1. I do think that when white feminists quote other white feminists it's appropriate to mention that the person they're quoting is white. If I have failed to point that out every single time it's come up, that's because I'm human and I only have so many teaspoons. Denormalizing whiteness is something I think every white person should do whenever we can.
2. I do not think that it's at all appropriate to quote a feminist of color and then call it "derailing" when there are responses about race.
3. Requests that people please not whitewash their sources do not equate to a demand that we talk about race and nothing else. It's a request that we please not view the work of feminists of color as "feminist, but with some racial caveats." Welcome to intersectionality! Learn to talk about both race and gender at the same time.
ETA: Just saw Plain(s) Feminist's post about Feminist Mothering on Feministe that does what I'd consider fine job of including the work of Black women in the discussion without appropriating or whitewashing. See also, lauredhel's post on bell hooks on parenting and feminism on Hoyden about Town .
(this has been moved to my own space in an attempt to stop "derailing" the discussion about Audre Lorde over there.)
1. I do think that when white feminists quote other white feminists it's appropriate to mention that the person they're quoting is white. If I have failed to point that out every single time it's come up, that's because I'm human and I only have so many teaspoons. Denormalizing whiteness is something I think every white person should do whenever we can.
2. I do not think that it's at all appropriate to quote a feminist of color and then call it "derailing" when there are responses about race.
3. Requests that people please not whitewash their sources do not equate to a demand that we talk about race and nothing else. It's a request that we please not view the work of feminists of color as "feminist, but with some racial caveats." Welcome to intersectionality! Learn to talk about both race and gender at the same time.
ETA: Just saw Plain(s) Feminist's post about Feminist Mothering on Feministe that does what I'd consider fine job of including the work of Black women in the discussion without appropriating or whitewashing. See also, lauredhel's post on bell hooks on parenting and feminism on Hoyden about Town .
(this has been moved to my own space in an attempt to stop "derailing" the discussion about Audre Lorde over there.)